What I am going to do now is to document all of the relevant useful information in these transcripts so the truth is known. Everything I do here is for the truth's sake.
Her full name is Nancy Jo Krebs.
Her birth date is 4-5-1962.
At the time of the interview Nancy Lived in Los Osos, California.
Nancy Krebs family, which is actually the Christoff family, was very well acquainted with the White Family. These families go way back and are very close. This is the reason why Nancy Krebs has so much information about the White family and about this case (the JonBenet Ramsey murder).
When she was a child, Nancy Krebs lived in Beuna Park, California, a suburb of Los Angeles. This is when her sexual abuse started. See map of Beuna Park below. Note that Beuna Park is in the proximity of Los Angeles and Long Beach. It is very close to Disneyland.
At the time her sexual abuse started, when Nancy lived in Beuna Park, Fleet White Sr. lived in Long Beach California. See the above map.
On holidays such as Christmas and Easter and on birthdays, the Christoff family and the White family would get together. They would visit each other. They were very close families. Again, this is the reason why Nancy Krebs knows so much. She knows through her family contacts.
Fleet White Sr. was the first person to sexually abuse Nancy Krebs that she remembers starting when she was 3 years old but closer to 4. The abuse would happen sometimes at her grandparents house when Fleet White Sr. was visiting during a holiday or birthday. Her grandparents were Alyce Christoff and Gordon Christoff. Sometimes Fleet White Sr. would abuse Nancy at other locations.
Following is a link to a family tree explaining all the relationships. This is useful for reference purposes.
Fleet White Jr. sexually abused Nancy Krebs when he was 15 or 16 but he was put up to it by his father. Fleet White Sr. got his son to sexually abuse Nancy as a child. He was told to do it by his father and he did. So the father was sexually corrupting his son to become a pedophile from the time he was a teenager.
Nancy said her younger sister Shirley was also a victim of child sexual abuse. Nancy became aware of this abuse when she was six and her sister was 4 and a half. This abuse happened at her grandparents house. Note: This is the sister who later allowed her daughter to be sexually abused at the party where JonBenet Ramsey died. At the time of the death of JonBenet, Shirley was married to man with the last name of Scott. He was a construction worker I have been able to find out. Now her last name is Reed.
When Nancy Krebs gave this testimony, Shirley was living at Ramstein air base, Germany. She was a civilian government employee attached to the U.S. Air Force. Before Shirley went to Germany she was living in Arvada, Colorado. See below map.
From the map you can see that Arvada was a mere 20 minutes from Denver. At the time of the JonBenet Ramsey murder, Shirley Scott lived in Arvada, Colorado with her construction worker husband and her five year old daughter. Shirley worked in Denver, Colorado at the time of the murder. (Side note: there is a reason why I suspect that the true location of the murder was in Denver, Colorado and not Boulder. Boulder is also very close to Denver. Just because JonBenet lived in Boulder does not mean the death occurred in Boulder. Its much more likely IMO that the death took place somewhere in Denver, Colorado.)
Shirley was 35 at the time of this interview.
Sexual abuse of Nancy and Shirley Krebs also happened at her parents' house. Her parents are Don Krebs and Gwen Krebs.
Nancy Krebs mentioned a screaming match between her grandfather, Gordon Christoff and Fleet White Sr. This argument happened when she was 3, almost 4. This was at the first when she was first being sexually abused by Fleet White Sr. Apparently Gordon Christoff walked in and caught Fleet White Sr. sexually abusing his granddaughter (Nancy) and he came totally unglued. This happened in 1966 during a birthday celebration for Gordon Christoff. During this screaming match Gordon Christoff had a massive heart attack and died on the spot. But Gordon Christoff was also guilty of sexually abusing Nancy, so it is unclear why he would become so angry at Fleet White Sr. for doing it.
For some reason Nancy stresses the importance of her grandfather Gordon Christoff having a massive heart attack and dying at this time. By saying this I perceive she is trying to communicate some hidden information.
Nancy Krebs said that her parents (Don and Gwen Krebs) were present a lot of times when she was sexually assaulted. They allowed her sexual abuse to happen and they watched it. (Note: I recently found an article about Don Krebs, see below).
Don Krebs physically assaulted Nancy as a child.
Nancy said that her parents (Don and Gwen) also sexually assaulted her as a child.
Nancy said that her mother (Gwen Krebs) would take her to places where she was sexually abused and witnessed it. One of the places Gwen took Nancy to was the White residence in Long Beach, California. This implies that Gwen Krebs was using her daughters for child prostitution and she watched and enjoyed the sexual abuse of her younger daughters by men. This shows the character of Gwen Krebs.
When Nancy was 7 or 8 years old, Fleet White Jr. began sexually abusing her without his father telling him to. When he was 15 or 16 his father had to tell him to abuse Nancy but later on when he was around 19 or 20 he did it on his own without being told to. In other words, Fleet White Jr. was a pedophile from the time he was 19. This has relevance for what comes later.
The type of sexual abuse performed on Nancy Krebs as a child by Fleet White Sr. and Fleet White Jr. was full vaginal and anal penetration and oral copulation.
The last time Nancy recalls being sexually abused by Fleet White Sr. is when Fleet White Sr. and her was at her grandparents' house in Cayucos, California. See below map.
The last time Nancy recalls being sexually abused by Fleet White Sr. was August 9, 1990 at her grandparents' house in Cayucos, California. Her grandparents were Albert Sprague and Alyce Christoff Sprague. Fleet White Sr. and his wife Nyla were visiting the Sprague' but mostly it was Alyce Christoff they were visiting. Fleet White Sr. has a long close relationship with Alyce Christoff. When the abuse happened, Fleet White Sr. asked Nancy to accompany him to a downstairs bedroom. Everyone was aware that he would sexually abuse Nancy. In other words, Alyce Christoff (Nancy's grandmother), Albert Sprague, and Nyla White were all aware of the sexual abuse. This is important.
During that final sexual abuse of Nancy Krebs by Fleet White Sr., he first asked her to undress. Then he took pictures of her with a polaroid camera, which he likely kept as a memento of the occasion. Fleet White Sr. tied Nancy's hands to the headboard of the bed in the downstairs bedroom. Then he had oral, vaginal and anal intercourse with her.
The last time Nancy recalls being sexually abused by Fleet White Jr. was between 1976 and 1978 in Trona, California. The reason that Fleet White Jr. stopped sexually abusing Nancy is because the abuse was so chronic that people (at her school) were starting to notice her sexual abuse and they reported their suspicions of sexual abuse to police. So the abuse only stopped because Fleet White Jr. was afraid of getting caught. by police.
Nancy Krebs had an aunt and uncle that lived in Bakersfield, California and she saw Fleet White Jr. at a social occasion there in the mid 1980's. Fleet and Priscilla had come to visit her uncle and aunt.
Macky Boykin was the worst sexual abuser of Nancy Krebs. She reported him to police. He got in trouble. He was booked in 1980. His trial was on July 8, 1980. He pled no contest to charges of statutory rape and sodomy. He served a relatively short period of time in jail.
Macky Boykin was Nancy's stepfather's brother. Thomas Boykin married Gwen Krebs after she divorced Don Krebs. So Thomas Boykin became Nancy's stepfather. Macky Boykin was his brother so Macky became Nancy's Uncle through her mother's marriage. But the sexual abuse of Macky Boykin against Nancy started far earlier. Macky Boykin started sexually abusing Nancy when she was 3 and lived at Buena Park, California. This is when her mother was still married to Don Krebs. Macky Boykins lived with his sister in a house not far from her house in Buena Park, California. While Gwen Krebs was married to Don Krebs, she was having a sexual relationship with Macky Boykin and other men. She was having affairs with other men while she was married to Don Krebs.
Don and Gwen Krebs got married in 1960 shortly after Don Krebs graduated from High School in Downey, California. https://www.redding.com/obituaries/rrs021464
Downey is close to Los Angeles.
Don and Gwen Krebs separated in 1968. Don moved to San Luis Obispo, California and took his son with him. The two daughters (Nancy and Shirley) remained in Beuna Park with Gwen. Nancy was six years old when her parents separated. The reason for their separation may very well have been because Don Krebs discovered that Gwen was having sexual affairs with multiple men behind his back.
Gwen Krebs later reunited with her husband. She moved back in with Don Krebs in San Luis Obispo, California, bringing Nancy and Shirley with her. So the family became reunited for a time. This is when Nancy was around 10.
Later there was an altercation between Don and Gwen and they separated again. This time Gwen took her two daughters and moved into a small apartment in San Luis Obispo.
Nancy was absent from school a lot because of rampant sexual abuse being perpetrated against her by Macky Boykin, Fleet White Sr., Fleet White Jr. and other men. Macky Boykin was her primary sexual abuser. Her sexual abuse was having a very detrimental effect on her, both physically and mentally. This is when she was in around the seventh and eight grade when she was living in a small apartment in San Luis Obispo with her mother and sister. They were poor and did not have a lot of money.
Gwen Krebs later moved to Trona, California, taking Nancy and Shirley with her. This was in March 1976. Shortly afterwards Gwen Krebs officially divorced Don Krebs so she could marry Thomas Boykin, who was the brother of Macky Boykin.
Nancy first disclosed her sexual abuse by Macky Boykin to a teacher when she was in high school in Trona California. This was in 1978 or 1979.
Talking about her past sexual has caused Nancy Krebs to curl up on the floor sobbing for a long time. That is how painful it was for her to disclose all this. She was very courageous to come forward.
Note: I am very proud to be the one to tell her story fully. I consider this a great honor of mine to do this. Although I was slow to discover the truth, I am now doing everything I can to spread her truth and try to bring justice for both her and especially for JonBenet. I hope I am not too late to do some good and bring some justice.
The last time Fleet White Sr. sexually abused Nancy was in 1990 but since that time he has asked her to do sexual things with him. Fleet White Sr. owed a chalet in Aspen, Colorado and he wanted Nancy to fly there to have sex with him. She refused.
Fleet and Nyla White owned a house in Costa Mesa, California.
At the time of this interview in 2000, Nancy Krebs lives with her grandmother, Alyce Christoff Sprague, in Los Osos, California.
Shortly before Nancy Krebs travelled to Boulder, Fleet White Sr. was making multiple calls to her trying to get her to come to Aspen, Colorado where he was living. He got his wife Nyla to call too trying to get Nancy to cooperate. So calls were coming in from Aspen, Colorado and Costa Mesa, California trying to put pressure on Nancy Krebs to go see Fleet White Sr. in Aspen. I assume this was to prevent her from testifying. Fleet White Sr. became concerned that Nancy Krebs was going to disclose what she knew to police and he was trying to get her to stop. This involves the JonBenet Ramsey murder.
Apparently Nancy Krebs is terrified of her grandmother, Alyce Christoff Sprague. The grandmother is a dominant, domineering watchdog of Nancy Krebs to make sure she does not say anything.
Alyce Christoff Sprague has a close relationship to Fleet White Sr. from way back long before Nancy was even born. They are very close, just like family.
Fleet White Sr. sent a manila envelope to Nancy Krebs containing some pictures and notes. Pay attention to this. The pictures were of Fleet White Sr. and Goldie Hawn. Goldie Hawn liked to go Aspen with her husband actor Curt Russell.
They were Hollywood celebrities who liked to go to Aspen routinely. Many Hollywood celebrities go to Aspen for some reason. Fleet White Sr. owns a chalet in Aspen and spent quite a bit of time there. He hung out with Goldie Hawn, Curt Russell and other Hollywood celebrities in Aspen in social situations. Fleet White Sr. was a former Hollywood celebrity himself, having starred in two 1946 films. When he was President of Fleet Oil Company in Los Angeles, he hung out with Hollywood celebrities there.
Fleet White Sr. and Nyla White were socialites who held big parties of up to 200 people in Aspen, Colorado. Celebrities such as Goldie Hawn were invited to and attended these parties.
Nancy Krebs was sexually assaulted in Aspen Colorado by Fleet White Sr. in the early 1970's. This happened at the Chalet owned by Fleet and Nyla White in Aspen which they purchased in 1964. Nancy Krebs grandparents (Alyce Christoff Sprague and Albert Sprague) took Nancy to see Fleet White Sr. in Aspen. Nyla was there too.
Gordon Christoff, Nancy's first grandfather, sexually abused her.
Albert Sprague, Nancy's second grandfather, also sexually abused her.
Fleet White Sr. and Gordon Christoff knew each since elementary school. They were very close friends since childhood.
Gordon Christoff and Fleet White Sr. both sexually abused Nancy from a very young age. It appears that Gordon Christoff gave Fleet White Sr. sexual access to his granddaughter and allowed him to sexually abuse her. This does not explain why he would become so angry at Fleet White Sr. to have a screaming match with him in 1966.
Nancy Krebs said that the first person she remembers sexually abusing her was Macky Boykin. But very early on, Macky Boykin, Gordon Christoff and Fleet White Sr. sexually abused Nancy. These three men had a close association with each other. Note: I know the close association between Gordon Christoff and Fleet White Sr. is because they were close friends since childhood. I do not know how Macky Boykin fits into the picture. What is the relationship between Macky Boykin and Gordon Christoff, if any?
From later research we know that Macky Boykin was an expert at sexual asphyxiation of children to make them respond to sexual abuse and that Macky Boykin performed this service for Fleet White Sr but apparently the relationship between these two men goes back a lot earlier, back to the 1960's or even possibly earlier. What is the relationship between these men? How did they meet? How do they know each other? Are they both part of some hidden group in Southern California? This is to be investigated.
Macky Boykin died in November of 1995. Macky Boykin was at her Mom and Stepdad's (Gwen and Thomas Boykin) place in Trona when he died.
Fleet White Sr. offered Nancy 75K to keep her mouth shut about everything she knows.
Albert Sprague, Nancy's second grandfather, died in 1992.
Don Krebs' mother was named Lois Krebs. Don Krebs' father was named Harold. This information from Nancy is confirmed by the following link: Don "Dallas" Krebs Obituary - Redding Record Searchlight
Nancy Krebs said her grandparents on this side of her family (Harold and Lois Krebs) also sexually abused her.
One of the things Fleet White Sr. sent Nancy Krebs in a manila folder was a death notice for Gordon Christoff from 1966 (when he died). Nancy interpreted this as a threat to her life.
Alyce Christoff contacted Fleet White Sr. and told him that Nancy Krebs was in Boulder testifying to the police.
Now we are finally starting to talk about the JonBenet Ramsey murder.
Nyla White disclosed to Nancy Krebs that Fleet White Sr. was very disturbed because he was spending all his time and money on Fleet White Jr. in regard to the JonBenet Ramsey murder.
Nyla White also disclosed to Nancy Krebs that Daphne White was holding up strong. (Daphne White was a victim at the party).
And then Nyla White disclosed something to Nancy Krebs which as been blacked out from the transcripts. I can only guess what it is by peicing together everything else I know about this case. What I think Nyla told Nancy is that Fleet White Jr. and Fleet White Sr. had accidently killed JonBenet Ramsey.
Fleet White was concerned that Nancy Krebs would tell police what she knew. He offered her 75K to keep quiet.
Bombshell Testimony
What follows is what I consider to be the SMOKING GUN hidden inside these transcripts. Go to PDF number 4, page 107 and start reading there, because this is the really juicy part of her entire testimony that exposes some really huge things.
The day after Christmas 1996, which would be 12-26-1996, Nancy Krebs received a telephone call from her mother, Gwen Krebs. (SIDE NOTE: Gwen Krebs was at the party when JonBenet died. Gwen Krebs witnessed the death of JonBenet, along with everyone else there. So when Gwen called Nancy, Gwen knew who killed JonBenet at this party.)
What Gwen told Nancy that is so important is this:
She asked Nancy if she had seen on television where Fleet White Sr. had been named as a suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Nancy had not seen it, so Gwen went on.
There was a entertainment oriented program called the EXTRA show that focused on Hollywood celebrities, etc. See the following link:
Gwen Krebs told Nancy that Fleet White Sr. had been named as a suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder on an episode of this program that was televised one of two days after the death of JonBenet. She said it mentioned Fleet White Sr. and his mentioned his oil company, Fleet Oil Company. (SIDE NOTE: The significance of this cannot be overstated. If you don't understand the significance of this, I will explain it later but this is the smoking gun of these entire transcripts.).
Gwen said she was calling Nancy from her sister's house in Arvada, Colorado. Nancy acts like she questions where Gwen was really calling from. (SIDE NOTE: This implies that Nancy Krebs suspected her mother was calling from a different location, which would be the real location where JonBenet died).
Gwen told Nancy that she had been with Nancy's five year old niece (daughter of Shirley) to the Christmas party held by Fleet White Jr. and Priscilla. Nancy Krebs again hints that what she is being told is not true. Gwen has told her that the Christmas party took place at the Fleet White Jr. residence on Christmas day and that Gwen was now back at Arvada, but Nancy implies that these things she is being told by Gwen might not be true. In other words, maybe the party was held somewhere else besides the Fleet White Jr. residence and maybe Gwen is not in Arvada but is in this other location.
That call ended and Nancy Krebs received another call from her grandmother on this same day, which was one or two days after the murder. The person calling was Alyce Christoff Sprague. Alyce told Nancy, "you know he is guilty". She was talking about Fleet White Sr. being guilty of the death of JonBenet Ramsey. She said it was Fleet Sr. who did the homicide of JonBenet. And she said "He'll never get caught. He'll never get caught".
READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING:
The story got changed from Fleet White Sr. being a suspect in the murder to an unknown intruder breaking in to the Ramsey home at some point and the original story became memory holed. This is of paramount importance to understand. Who has the power to change a story completely from the truth to a lie? Only the U.S. Government would have such power. Only intelligence agencies like the CIA and the NSA and possibly other unnamed government agencies would have the power to change a story ON THE PRETEXT OF PROTECTING NATIONAL SECURITY. This is exactly what they did. They used National security as a pretext for hiding the truth from the public and they created a false cover story that is what most people believe to be the truth today (the intruder, the ransom note, all the clues inside the Ramsey home). ITS ALL BULLSHIT! The whole media circus surrounded the Ramsey home is deception to hide the truth. Currently 99% of what is on the internet about the JonBenet Ramsey murder is focused on A FALSE COVER STORY.
Shirley Scott left Arvada, Colorado to go to Ramstein Air Base in Germany in May of 1998. She did not take her children with her at this time. Gwen Krebs was taking care of her children. For awhile Gwen Krebs lived in Arvada to take care of the children there until around the end of June, 1998. Then she flew the children back to California to her house to live with her.
During the time the two children were living in California Gwen Krebs brought them to Nancy's house. The children were Nancy's nephew and niece. (SIDE NOTE: Remember that the niece was at the party where JonBenet died and witnessed the death). Nancy Krebs took her nephew and niece and some other kids someplace where there was a sidewalk sale at a Payless Drug Store. While at this sidewalk sale the niece saw a binder with a Barbie on it and she instantly became hysterical and started screaming "Thay are going to kill my guinea pig!! They are going to kill me!!". (SIDE NOTE: This child was a mind control victim and she was being threatened with her own death and the death of her pet guinea pig if she told anyone about her seeing JonBenet die at the party. Seeing the Barbie on the binder triggered something in the mind controlled child. Hidden memories came into her conscious mind and she totally freaked out.)
Nancy Krebs implied that it was Gwen Krebs, Shirley Scott, the husband of Shirely Scott and possibly others who were at the private party who were making these threats against her niece to make her keep silent about what she had seen at the private Christmas party. (SIDE NOTE: I have referred to this party as a Satanist ceremony in other posts. It was a Satanist ceremony. It was also a party. It was both. Children were sexually abused during this party/ceremony. It happened around midnight on Christmas 1996 in a secret location.)
Had the niece talked, then she would have been killed and possibly her parents would have been killed also, so it was very important to the family that she not disclose what she had seen at the private party. That is why they made all the death threats against the girl, to ensure her silence.
Again Nancy implies that the party was NOT at the home of Fleet and Priscilla White in Boulder even though her mother told her it was there. I very much believe there was a secret party held somewhere else, possibly in Denver, Colorado. Nancy Krebs does not know where the party took place. She only knows that her mother and niece were at that party, wherever it was held.
Nancy Krebs met Patsy Ramsey (then named Patsy Paugh) at a Rainbow girls convention in Sacramento, California in 1979. (SIDE NOTE: a question that may be asked is why was Patsy Paugh at a Rainbow girls convention in California? Rainbow Girls is a Freemasonry organization. There are two purposes of Rainbow Girls. The private purpose is to arrange relationships between the children of Freemasons; to arrange relationships and marriages between the children of Freemasons. Patsy Paugh was the daughter of Freemason Don Paugh.) This was before Patsy had even met John Ramsey.
Nancy Krebs reveals that she was very high up in the Rainbow Girls. This reveals a connection between Nancy Krebs and Freemasonry since Rainbow Girls is a Freemasonry organization.
There is another organization in Freemasonry which is called Job's Daughters. See below image.
Nancy Krebs was also affiliated with Job's Daughters, in addition to being affiliated with Rainbow Girls.
More about Job's Daughters:
Job’s Daughters is an organization of young women between the ages of 10 and 20 who are related to a Master Mason, and share a common bond.
This means that both Nancy Krebs and Patsy Paugh were related to Master Masons. In the case of Patsy Paugh, we know her father Don Paugh was a Master Mason (in other words, a Freemason of a very high degree. 32nd or 33rd.). In the case of Nancy Krebs, who was she related to who was a Master Mason? Don Krebs? Gordon Christoff? Her grandmother Alyce Christoff Sprague? Someone else in the family?
Nancy Krebs first met John Ramsey when she was a small child. She thinks she first saw him at the house of Fleet White Sr. in Long Beach, California or at her grandparent's house in Cayucos, California and other locations.
In 1974, Gwen Krebs was having a long-distance sexual relationship with John Ramsey based upon a intimate sexual relationship they had had previously when John Ramsey was in California. Gwen Krebs had telephone conversations with John Ramsey every week. John Ramsey was not in California at this time. This was when John Ramsey was married to his first wife, who apparently John Ramsey was not sexually satisfied with. John Ramsey apparently did not have a good car to drive to California to see Gwen Krebs but he wanted to buy one. He wanted to buy a 1970 model for 1600.00. John Ramsey was not wealthy at this time if he was struggling to buy a car for only 1600.00.
When Nancy Krebs was a young child, John Ramsey was involved in prostituting her and in using her to create child pornography from. John Ramsey made a lot of money by doing this. This is the "business aspect" of the ritualistic child sexual abuse. (SIDE NOTE: It is almost certain that John Ramsey was doing these exact same things to his own daughter, JonBenet. In other words, he was prostituting her to others for money and creating child pornography of her to sell to others for money.)
Nancy Krebs is revealing the Satanist aspect of her abuse. Her family. The White family. The Ramsey family. The Paugh family. Other families. All these families have been involved in this behavior for many, many years. Satanism runs in families.
John Ramsey had sexual intercourse with Nancy Krebs. Also anal sodomy, oral copulation, putting her in bondage situations. Sometimes chaining her or tying her to something while she was being abused. Sometimes using little tiny sticks that they would put on fire and insert inside of her bodily orifices. Broom stick handles. Handles of little whisk brooms were inserted inside her.
The first time Nancy Krebs remembers John Ramsey is when she was first being sexually abused at age 3, almost four in conjunction with being abused by Fleet White Sr., Fleet White Jr. and Macky Boykin. (SIDE NOTE: There was an early association between these Fleet White Sr., Macky Boykin, and John Ramsey. These people are all involved with the same (Satanist) group. They know each other through this group. This group involves Freemasonry. This group involves Satanism. Fleet White Jr. became involved through his father. It is highly likely that Fleet White Sr. was a high level Freemason (32nd or 33rd degree)).
Macky Boykin was an expert at using sexual asphyxiation on young children to make them feel sexually excited while they were being sexually abused by an adult. Macky Boykin performed this service for Fleet White Sr. and other men. He was well paid to do this. Where did Macky Boykin learn how to do this? When did he learn it? Where did he learn it? Did he learn this when he was in Korea? Did he learn this in the U.S. Navy? Did he learn this from some other source? Did this involve mind control? Who taught Macky Boykin how to do this? These are some unanswered questions.
Regarding John Ramsey, Nancy Krebs said he sadistically sexually abused her and that her sexual abuse with him was filmed by others. Two cameras were often used, one by her face to capture her facial expression and one by her genitalia to capture that. She said that that this pornography went on reel tape. (SIDE NOTE: The film from these two cameras must have been edited to create a single pornographic video. Who did the editing and where was it done? I suspect this was a professional organization behind this so the maximum profit could be made from the sexual abuse.) Nancy said that John Ramsey was into bondage. Tying her with ropes and chains. Using handcuffs on her, etc. She said that Macky Boykin was brought in to strangle her (sexual asphyxiation) as she was being abused by John Ramsey. (SIDE NOTE: Macky Boykin had an association with Fleet White Sr and John Ramsey in that he would perform sexual asphyxiation on their child victims to make them feel arousal while being abused. Macky Boykin was an expert at this.)
The husband of Shirley Krebs (first name unknown, last name Scott) moved from Arvada, Colorado to Las Vegas, Nevada to work there. He was a heavy equipment operator in the construction business. He was a heavy equipment operator in Arvada and Las Vegas. The last Nancy heard he was driving a forklift.
When he moved to Nevada his wife (Shriley) was in Germany and his kids were in Trona, California living with their grandmother (Gwen Krebs). He did not move to Las Vegas until Gwen took his two children to California to live with her in Trona, California. Later on Shirley's husband moved to Ramstein Air Base, Germany to live with his wife. He took his kids with him. So at the time of this interview the entire family lived at Ramstein Air Base, Germany.
Nancy Krebs implies that her sister Shirley was prostituting her young daughter to men in the same way that Gwen Krebs prostituted her two young daughters to men. This behavior runs in the family.
The people sexually abusing Nancy Krebs (Fleet White Sr., John Ramsey, others) wanted her to be sexually aroused during it. It was important to them in a perverse way that their child victim enjoyed the sexual abuse and even could orgasm during it. This was a big part of the thrill to these men. This is why sexual asphyxiation was often used against Nancy Krebs by Macky Boyken while she was being abused by another person. I believe this same thing was happening with JonBenet Ramsey at the Christmas night party on 12-25-1996 which led to her accidental strangulation. (SIDE NOTE: Macky Boykin died in 1995 and was unavailable to perform sexual asphyxiation on JonBenet while Fleet White Sr. sexually abused her so Fleet White Sr. found a substitute for Macky Boykin to do what he used to do when he was alive. This substitute strangler made a mistake and accidently strangled JonBenet to death so she could not be revived. It is my belief that this substitute strangler was Fleet White Jr., who was performing this service for his father.
Regarding the sexual asphyxiation used on Nancy Krebs by Macky Boykin, she said it involved pressing on the carotid artery with his thumb or using ropes or scarves to strangle her with. The goal was to bring her to a point close to unconsciousness but to not make her actually go unconscious. When she went unconscious Macky would get very angry. He wanted her close to unconscious to get the sexual arousal effect they were trying to achieve. (SIDE NOTE: Again, I wonder where and how Macky Boykin learned how to do this. He used this against Nancy Krebs in 1966 when she lived in Beuna Park. This was before Macky worked at China Lake Naval Research Center. So Macky Boykin had acquired knowledge of how to do this prior to 1966. When, where and how did he gain this knowledge?)
Nancy Krebs reported that the strangling caused her lips to tingle and her eyes to feel like they were going to pop out of her head.
Nancy Krebs was not at the party when JonBenet died but her speculation is that a substitute was found for Marky Boykin (who died in 1995) to perform the sexual asphyxiation techniques that Macky was an expert at. But the substitute was not an expert. The substitute was inexperienced. He may have done it a few times before 12-25-1996 but he was not nearly as experienced as Macky. This substitute strangler made a mistake and actually strangled JonBenet to death so she could not be revived.
Nancy Krebs thinks that the abuse of JonBenet was being filmed at the party when she accidentally died. Although not intended to be a snuff film, this film became a snuff film when JonBenet died.
Nancy Krebs said that they did not intend to kill JonBenet because she was making money for them in child prostitution and child pornography. She was making a lot of money for John Ramsey in particular but also for others involved.
Nancy Krebs said that all of her sexual abuse from the very beginning was filmed so they could profit monetarily from the sexual abuse. So there were two aspects of the abuse. One was the sexual pleasure of the pedophiles involved and the second was to create child pornography from it and sell to other pedophiles for huge sums of money. It was very profitable to this network to do that. (SIDE NOTE: Some people investigating this case have described this network as a pedophile ring but that is not right. This is a Satanist network in which pedophilia is involved. In which child prostitution is involved. In which child pornography is involved. In which a lot of other things are involved such as drug running and gun running and a lot of other criminal activity. So it goes FAR BEYOND a mere pedophile ring to something MUCH BIGGER than a pedophile ring. This needs to be understood.)
Nancy Krebs said that a person dressed as Santa Claus would be used to fondle young children at Christmas parties. They used Santa Claus to lower the defenses of the child to being abused. She said they would often start out the molestation by using a Santa Claus and then go to harder sexual activity using the young children. AND EVERYTHING WAS FILMED. (SIDE NOTE: At the Christmas night sex party in an UNDISCLOSED SECRET LOCATION, at least three different children were being passed around for sexual abuse: six year old JonBenet Ramsey, six year old Daphne White and the five year old niece of Nancy Krebs. All of this abuse was filmed. So there were multiple people at the party filming the sexual abuse of the children. Who were the people filming? One was undoubtedly John Ramsey who filmed the abuse of his own daughter but there were others. Ramsey Family photographer Randy Simons was very likely one of these people filming the sexual abuse at this party. Besides those two others were filming also.)
Nancy Krebs talks about the party after the party. In other words, there was a legitimate party like a Christmas party that a lot of people were invited to that did not involve sexual abuse of children. But then after most of the people attending the first party went home then there was a second party by those who stayed at the location and did not go home. It was during the second party when sexual abuse of children happened. (SIDE NOTE: Rusty Nelson described the same thing in relation to the Franklin Credit Union scandal. A normal party would occur first and then afterwards a second party would occur of only a select few. Nelson referred to this as the party after the party.)
Nancy Krebs was worried that either Fleet White Sr. or Fleet White Jr. was going to have someone kill her to shut her up.
Nancy was concerned that Law Enforcement in California was at the very least heavily influenced by those rich, powerful people there. (SIDE NOTE: What Nancy Krebs is saying is that LE in California is controlled by the Satanists and I believe she is correct in that assessment. What she did not know is that the Boulder Police Department and Boulder DA's office was also controlled by the Satanists. Shortly after she made her testimony the BPD announced that her story was not credible without even investigating any of her claims. And Alex Hunter, the Boulder DA, sealed the grand jury records forever. So the Boulder authorities were controlled by the Satanists and none of Nancy's testimony had any impact on the case.)
This concludes Nancy Krebs' testimony but the information she provided is extremely relevant to the JonBenet Ramsey murder. I have made many posts on this Blog based upon Nancy's testimony.
In terms of the public, this case is never intended to be solved. The powers that be (TPTB) want people going around in circles forever focused on the FALSE CRIME SCENE AT THE RAMSEY HOME without anyone even discussing what really happened. On Reddit and many other places you see an almost 100% focus on the FALSE CRIME SCENE. I am one of the few people who ignore the FALSE CRIME SCENE and discuss only the truth that Nancy Krebs describes. For this I am either ignored or ridiculed by most people but I do not care what other people think. I care about the truth.
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